From : Järveläinen Jussi <Jussi.Jarvelainen@prodacapo.com>
To : Martti Virtanen <martti.virtanen@nordcase.org>; Ketevan Goginashvili <kgoginashvili@moh.gov.ge>; kristiina.kahur@nordcase.org
Subject : Finalization of GEO2018 grouper
Cc : Maia maglakelidze-khomeriki <Mmaglakelidze-khomeriki@ssa.gov.ge>; itabatadze@ssa.gov.ge; srostiashvili@ssa.gov.ge; Serpola Pekka <Pekka.Serpola@prodacapo.com>
Received On : 31.01.2019 14:03

Hello!

 

The next steps in co-op w. NCC should be the following. Refer also to e-mails 23.1.2019.

1. We’ll get a new definitions table set from NCC, including diagnosis codes K436 and K437, or a confirmation that those will not be added in this version.

2. We’ll send application for certification to NCC including the standard test case file with known errors mainly in DRGs 388 and 390 vs test cases in tables.

3. NCC sends to us a certificate (PDF) similar with Nordic certificates for version GEO2018PR1.

This version or certification doesn’t cause expenses to Georgian Ministry or Prodacapo, from NCC.

 

RFC? Agree or disagree  on something?

 

Best regards,

Jussi

 

From: Järveläinen Jussi
Sent: 23. tammikuuta 2019 15:53
To: 'Martti Virtanen' ; 'Ketevan Goginashvili' ; 'kristiina.kahur@nordcase.org'
Cc: 'Maia maglakelidze-khomeriki' ; 'itabatadze@ssa.gov.ge' ; 'srostiashvili@ssa.gov.ge' ; Serpola Pekka
Subject: RFC: Certification of GEO version of NordDRG by NCC ?

 

Hello!

 

We must agree on whether GEO grouper version will be certified by NCC, and if yes then how.

Certification is a standard procedure for the Nordic versions formally.

 

If we certify, then

·         We’ll send certification files to NCC (standard “Certification kit” including test.txt), who checks the results and writes to us a certificate. In practice the certificate is an one page signed (by NCC) document as PDF, that states that Prodacapo’s grouper version GEO2018PR1 works according to NCC’s specifications.

·         Test cases in current definition tables resulted in ca. 590 error cases. We checked briefly w. Kristiina Kahur (the previous table set earlier last year) and her conclusion was that those doesn’t seem to be errors of grouper. Erroneous test cases in GEO tables (attached) originate probably from using LAT versions test cases, not updated in full. Those are mostly in newborns DRG groups (388, 390). Errors log attached.

·         Extra work involved for certification (preparations, test case updates etc.) could mean extra work for us or NCC.

 

Of course we can alternatively mutually agree on not to certify, in which case we remove certification information from our batch grouper, Web API and VisualDRG software packages for this version.

 

What do you think, how to proceed?

Best regards,

Jussi